WBKE 112: Joel Osteen Loves Lunch

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On this week's heretical WBKE, Will and Bobby talk to official show doctor Matt Van Auken about nerd stuff, and then they get to the business of debunking a true Southern Gentleman / Evangelist Preacher / Stranger Danger, Joel Osteen.

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Episode 113 next week!  Woooo!

WBKE 111: Rock me, Gorgeous George

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On this week's gorgeous WBKE, Will and Bobby talk about Gorgeous George and the Goons, SEXY HALF NAKED GIRLS, and how they are going to revolutionize late night (but only if you hate Jay Leno)!

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Episode 112 next week!  Woooo!

WBKE - Super Secret Special Episode: Bobby Edition

Hello game/car/pod friends out there! If you follow our show AND I KNOW YOU DO, you'll know that last week, I (Bobby) was to present my solo cast, as Will took a week off from the show. I did not do that, however, because I was a pussy wussy and couldn't actually get my computer to work. WHICH is most of the problem regarding the extreme lateness in posting this episode tonight! Click on DIS to listen directly in your browser!

That's right, I'm now presenting my solo show, done alone in my room hovering right above a mess of soggy tacos I had delivered to my apartment. This week's show is a little shorter, not as funny, a little more out there, but still definitely entertaining. If one thing's come of it, at least I've gotten used to using garage band and what microphone settings do what!

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GOOD NIGHT!

WBKE - Episode 50: If I Go Down

Happy 50th Episode, everybody! I'm not sure if that's a milestone or not, when it comes to a weekly show, but it's certainly a satisfying number! This week on the show we're joined again by our buddy Anthony Walker, who you'll probably remember from Episode 24! We have a weird conversation that starts with Bobby's penis, turns into a conversation about suicide, and then amazingly enough, comes back to Bobby's penis. Seriously. It's a really interesting conversation, and in the final minutes, we play a NEW SINGLE from Anthony called "If I Go Down." It's such a good song.

Click here to listen! Or grab the show on iTunes!

We're also available on the Stitcher smart phone app for Android/Apple!

Once you're done with the show, you'll definitely want to check out Anthony's Bandcamp Page, where you can buy his music!

Also make sure you follow us on Twitter: @WillRogers2000 @BobbyKoester @AWalkerMusic

And on Facebook. We also do a couple of YouTube shows that you should really be watching: SUBSCRIBE!

Thanks for listening guys, we love doing the show, so we hope you guys enjoy it!

Episode 51 next week!

WBKE - Episode 46: A Robot Pooping Batteries

This week: we're joined by Michael Palmer for a legitimately interesting, intellingent, and funny conversation which we've summarized as "A Robot Pooping Batteries," which may be the stupidest thing in the fucking world. But seriously, enjoy this show, we're fucking smart! Now, everybody should go check out a project that Michael is working on to build an outdoor classroom and treehouse for a preschool! You can check out their amazing work and help them by checking out their Facebook page by clicking HERE!

NOW THEN:

Click here to listen to the show!

Or look us up on iTunes or Stitcher!

We're also both up on twitter (@WillRogers2000 and @BobbyKoester), Facebook, and we have a TON of videos up on YouTube!

As a matter of fact, you're really going to want to check out the YouTube channel because now we're launched a new show called Game Friends! Twice a week we're going to be playing and reviewing video games! It's fucking stupid and a lot of fun, so please check it out, and maybe give us a like or subscribe!

And please send comments/questions/suggestions of topics to discuss, and suggestions of games to play online to us at WillAndBobby@gmail.com

I hope you enjoy the show guys, maybe help spread the word!

Episode 47 next week!

WBKE - Episode 45: Special Episode 45

This week on Will and Bobby Know Everything, Bobby explains where he's been for the past couple of weeks, and Will gets bullied in a Nintendo game! Click here to listen or look us up on iTunes or the Stitcher smart phone app!

Also check us out on Twitter (@WillRogers2000 and @BobbyKoester), Facebook, and YouTube!

What do you want to hear/see us do next? Let us know: WillAndBobby@gmail.com

Thanks for listening guys, I hope you enjoy the show!

Episode 46 next week!

WBKE - Kinda/Sorta Halloween Special! AND Scary Story Time: October 2012

Hey guys, first up,  I have to apologize for being a day late in getting these posts to you. Here in New Jersey we've holed up, waiting out the rain in the dark, but all that's behind us now because I've got not only the Halloween podcast for you, but also this month's Scary Story Time! So first up, here's an hour long show filled with not only submitted stories from friends and listeners, but also filled with some of our own experiences, which you can get by:

1. CLICKING HERE

2. Going to the WBKE iTunes Store Page, or searching for us on Stitcher!

I hope you enjoy the show, guys, because of a good few reasons it's lacking Bobby, but my girlfriend Allie and I still had more than enough to say! We'd initially planned to just do a half hour, but we naturally ended up doubling that!

Now it's time for a story though. This is one of my favorites and it comes to us from, as best as I can find, just "Johnny." There's something about it's insanely simple twist that I really like. I can't quite put my finger on it. But lets just jump right in:

The Couch

Ok, disclaimer: To the very best of my knowledge, this story is true. I don't expect to convince you - truth be told, I've had a hard time coming to terms with it myself. Cliche' as it may be, I really am a rational person, and, if not for this, I would probably be the most stone-faced atheist you'd ever meet. But, after much internal struggle and debate, I have come to the conclusion that there are things in life that simply can't be explained with reason, at least in the form in which we know it. Logic, for all the trust we place in it, is really nothing more than a candle, all too easily snuffed out. And when it is gone, we are left alone in the dark, and everything we would scoff at by daylight suddenly becomes very believable.

Alright, before I wax too melodramatic, here's my story.

I was very young; only 4 or 5, at most, before either of my siblings were born. It was just Mommy and Daddy and me, living in our little house in Great Bend, Kansas. Very quaint. We were a young family, without much money, and most of our furniture was second-hand.

It was the middle of the day; summer, hot, boring. I was playing marbles by myself on the thin carpet beside the huge, old, flower-patterned-couch. Mom was down the hall in the kitchen, and Dad was at work.

Why I was trying to roll marbles around on the carpet I don't know - we had a perfectly good linoleum floor, after all. But there I was, swishing the marbles back and forth, happily bouncing them into each other. Then, in my overzealous enthusiasm, I rolled too hard. My favorite marble - the clear, ruby-red one, zipped into the dark space under the couch and was lost. Damnit. Dad wasn't home, and he was the only one strong enough to move that huge old couch for me. I'd have to get my marble back myself.

I reached my hand under the couch, tentatively at first, then deeper.

Encountering no marbles, I pulled my hand out in disappointment.

Then, a hand reached out from under the couch back at me. I remember the image vividly, and I suspect I always will. It was a slim hand, with tapered fingers - a woman's hand. It was gnarled and wrinkled, as if aged, and it was dead black. Not black as in African, black as in dead. Of course, back then, I didn't know that corpses blacken as they decompose, so I didn't know what the black meant.

The hand reached out to me as far as it could, which was just up to the wrist. Then it retreated under the couch. Then it emerged again, this time pushing with it a little crumpled up, plastic bag with a logo on it I didn't recognize. It waited, as if expecting me to take the bag. Then, when I didn't, it pulled the bag back under the couch and was gone.

I got up, walked down to the kitchen, and told my Mommy what had happened. Why didn't I run screaming, or at least run? I don't really know. All I can say is, I was a little kid; a hand reaching out from under the couch at me didn't seem like that huge a deal. I hadn't yet learned what was and was not permissible in reality. I had no worldview.

Mom was skeptical, but walked me back to the couch and explained how I was probably imagining things. She even reached her hand under the couch to convince me that nothing was down there. Later, Dad lifted the couch up for me, and the only thing under it was, of course, my missing marble, plus a few more marbles I didn't even remember losing.

But here's the scary part...

For years, I remembered this - I even developed a weird fantasy of little hand-people living under the couch, and I, in my childlike innocence, believed that they would catch me and take me away if I ever reached into their domain again. Then, as I grew older, I wrote the memory off as a dream I had had as a child - cute, but silly.

Then, a few years ago, I recounted the story to my mother.

She gave me a funny look, and told me she remembered it, because, after all, she had been there. She told me that she remembered me coming to her in the middle of the day and telling her about the hand under the couch, and remembered being highly disturbed by my story, since I was an extremely quiet, well-behaved kid who didn't ever lie.

Then she told me about the couch itself. According to her, she and Dad had gotten the couch from the estate of an old woman who had actually died on it. This was the first time I had heard about this, but it sure explained why they got rid of the couch within a month of my story.

But here's part that truly frightens me, even to this day. The part that I have to try so hard to get out of my mind some nights. Remember that bag the hand pushed towards me? I've never forgotten the logo that was on it. And, recently, (as in a few years ago), I saw the same logo again, on what looked like the same type of bag, in a hardware store.

It was a bag of utility razor-blades.

THE END

Well that's a wrap on Halloween, everybody! I hope you enjoy the story, I hope you enjoy the show, and I hope you spread the word about us!

So please remember to follow us on Twitter (@WillRogers2000 and @BobbyKoester), to like our Facebook Page, and to subscribe to our YouTube Channel! You can also send us comments or questions at WillAndBobby@gmail.com! We have some amazing announcements coming up, so keep an eye on us, guys!

See you again for episode 44 of WBKE on Sunday!

WBKE - Episode 42: JOIN OUR CULT

Kaboom everybody! This week on Will and Bobby Know Everything, I (Will) instantly start telling Bobby something that I knew he'd hate. Turns out I was absolutely right. We very quickly segue into a conversation about what distopian future we're most likely heading for, and play with the rules of time travel! Bobby also invents a new sport, and I absolutely believe it's going to be the next big thing. Fucking so stupid.

Anyway, listen closely to hear the rules for this week's contest! Whoever sends in the most creative explanation for a sound Bobby is making will win an ACTUAL PRIZE! Just send your answer to us at WillAndBobby@gmail.com!

And here’s how to listen:

1. CLICK HERE!

2. Go to the WBKE iTunes Store page, or search for the show on the Stitcher smart phone app!

3. Read our insanely detailed How to Listen page!

Also be sure to follow us on Twitter (@WillRogers2000 and @BobbyKoester) and like us on Facebook (and find more in our About Us page)! And please feel free to send any comments or questions to us at WillAndBobby@gmail.com!

Remember, we're also looking for people to send in scary stories for a Halloween episode, so please help us out by asking your family and friends if they've ever seen a ghost or experienced anything that chilled them to the bone!

Thanks guys, and enjoy the show!

Episode 43 next week!

WBKE - Episode 41: Fetish Jade

Hey guys, welcome to a very special (VERY NSFW) episode of Will and Bobby Know Everything. Right off the bat, you'll hear Bobby and me giving you this disclaimer: This show sounds like shit (but no show will ever sound this bad again thanks to some new equipment we got), and this is the first show to our knowledge where the guest host seems to be genuinely annoyed by us. We debated all week whether or not to put this episode online, because there are quite a few moments where things get a little tense, but the fact of the matter is that our guests were perfectly friendly and interesting the clear majority of the time, and the tension itself is worth listening to. All in all, it's a rough conversation, but I think it's a great show!

So a huge thanks to our hosts Fetish Jade and Sophie, who I hope understand that my disclaimer is intended to give hopefully objective context for the conversation, and who I hope know we mean no harm! You can find them at FetishJade.com!

And here's how to listen:

1. CLICK HERE!

2. Go to the WBKE iTunes Store page, or search for the show on the Stitcher smart phone app!

3. Read our insanely detailed How to Listen page!

Also be sure to follow us on Twitter (@WillRogers2000 and @BobbyKoester) and like us on Facebook (and find more in our About Us page)! To win a super sweet prize, send interesting information or personal experiences with fetishes to us at WillAndBobby@gmail.com! If we pick your fact/story, you will win an ACTUAL STUPID PRIZE! Also feel free to send comments/questions/hate mail!

Enjoy the show!

Episode 42 next week!

Will and Bobby Wrote Something: Part Six

Click here to start Will and Bobby Wrote Something from Part One! Last month I described Bobby’s and my effort to create a new show that wouldn’t require so much work or passion. After having created three shows together that asked a lot of us, the idea of creating a simple crime procedural felt like the right thing to do. Despite the fact that we never actually sent our scripts to anyone, we felt rejected. More than that, even though no one had ever actually rejected us, we felt like failures. I think we were about to give up before this show came along.

Surprisingly, Dissecting Henry Crane felt to me like one of the purest creative experiences we’d ever had.

The idea was to take the basic concept of The Silence of the Lambs and turn it into a TV show. We would start at “a serial killer is aiding the FBI in catching serial killers,” and branch outward with completely original characters. The idea works, has a staggering amount of potential, and can be tonally diverse, ranging from “fun,” catch-the-killer episodes to darker character-study territory.

As I mentioned, shortly after we began working on Dissecting Henry Crane (in approximately January 2011) a fully licensed show based on Silence of the Lambs was announced (in February 2011). That being the case, Bobby and I have very little of Dissecting Henry Crane down on paper, as we would meet up and mostly just talk out what the plot would be.

Over the course of these conversations, we had basically decided this:

Henry Crane is a serial killer obsessed with serial killers. It’s known that he would emulate the style of other killers, presumably as a means of trying to understand his desire to kill by following their methods. What this means is that no one knows just how many people he has killed. Some of his murders may have actually been pinned on the killer he was copying, and he may actually shoulder blame for murders he didn’t commit.

Henry was eventually caught by an FBI agent named Leonard Weston, and after the media attention regarding his arrest subsided, he had a controversial idea. Recognizing that in addition to being a murderer, Henry Crane is also an encyclopedia about serial killers, Leonard began to consult Henry on cases. Leonard would consult Henry (in his cell) about the likely motivation of an active killer, and Henry would lend both insight and theorize about the killer’s next move. Ultimately this proved a successful endeavor and eventually the news got out that the hero Leonard Weston was working with a psychopathic madmen. Public response was mixed, but they couldn’t argue with the success rate of the two, so they continued to work together for years. Eventually Leonard began teaching courses to FBI agents in training, and was allowed to teleconference Henry Crane into the room not only as an example of a killer but also as an assistant of sorts. They would go over the details of their successful cases for the students, displaying their techniques and experiences in catching murderers.

It’s here that the pilot of the show would have started, with Leonard and Henry years into teaching the course, when they meet a student named Ed Burger (a name I don’t like, but we used). Ed notices an inconsistency in a case Leonard and Henry solved, and his realization suggests that an innocent man was captured instead of a killer. The relationship between Henry/Leonard and the FBI/media explodes with claims that the Henry Crane manipulated Leonard into letting a killer remain free. It’s suggested that Leonard forgot the real threat that Henry poses, and allowed the lunatic to influence his actions.

Ultimately it’s decided that though Leonard was once a brilliant agent, his mind became corrupted by his constant associations with Henry, who is dangerous, but could still be useful with a fresh intelligent agent using his knowledge correctly. Subsequently, they decide to hand over the responsibility to Ed Burger, but warn him that any agent working with Henry essentially has a countdown to corruption above their head.

From here, the show we planned would have been five seasons long, each season centered on a major serial killer with the potential for self-contained shows centering on the capture of a smaller profile killer. We wanted to do a character study of murderers, and each season’s main killer would have their own in-depth character study, as well as some sort of connection to Henry, whether he’d emulated their M.O. at some point or even crossed paths with them.

One of the only actual documents I have of the show is not a good representation of the show, as it’s basically just a rambling series of ideas trying to flesh out Henry’s background and motivation. I wrote it and sent it to Bobby just before we scrapped the whole project and you can even see at the end that I’m literally listing possible ideas for a killer. At the end I assure Bobby that I’m just trying to hash out concepts and exploring ideas, which we could later fine-tune:

Dissecting Henry Crane – Pilot Concept

Season Four would have ended with Henry escaping, setting the stage for Season 5 to focus on Henry himself as the main killer, with revelations about his past, some sort of connection to Ed’s childhood (which we never agreed on), and the revelation that in addition to emulating other serial killers, he had actually developed his own unique method of murder.

This show felt like a breath of fresh air to Bobby and me, as it seemed truly novel. We thought we had stumbled on a formula that no one else had ever noticed before, and as a result we felt very clever. It was exciting. Dissecting Henry Crane could be the type of show where we were free to do whatever we wanted. We could have episodes centered on Ed’s home life, shows from Henry’s perspective, or shows centered on a one-off killer with a bizarre motivation. It was a sort of creative playground.

The news that someone had noticed the potential for a series based on Hannibal Lecter basically murdered Dissecting Henry Crane. And where we had at least been allowed months of developing The Dead Don’t Walk before news of The Walking Dead came to us, we were now allowed merely a few weeks with our new creation before being steamrolled. Given that we were also only just beginning to feel creatively empowered when the news came, I think we were completely thrown out of orbit.

When Dissecting Henry Crane ended, Bobby and I stopped writing together. At this point, there were four entire universes of characters, settings, and storylines that existed nowhere but in our minds, and I think we were too tired to go on. Writing is not easy when you care about what you’re creating, and we learned that even when we try to create without caring, we can’t help but become completely invested in our work. Ultimately I think that’s a good thing, it’s just our luck that let us down.

Well, there's luck and then there's the fact that, again, we never actually contacted anyone about anything. Ever.

Any comments or questions: WillAndBobby@gmail.com

Next month our final project

WBKE - Episode 39: Candy Cane Lips

Hey guys, welcome to Episode 39 of WBKE, hosted by none other than my (Will) sister Kristen Rogers! I can't believe how well this show came out considering that not only was I in a shitty mood as we recorded, but Bobby Skyped in from Brooklyn, because he wasn't feeling well. It's such a goddamn good show. Kristen tells us about a possibly psychopathic woman who comes into her salon, Bobby talks about a weird control freak who came into his bar, and I generally lose my temper about everything! I say this a lot, but this might actually be one of my favorite shows we've ever done!

SO ANYWAY:

Click here to listen from your browser!

Click here to go to the iTunes page for the show, or just stream it from the Stitcher smart phone app!

You should also definitely check out Kristen's BLOG and ETSY STORE, because she's one of the funniest/most pleasant people in the world!

Also make sure you subscribe to our YouTube channel, follow Bobby (@BobbyKoester) and me (@WillRogers2000) on Twitter, and like our Facebook page!

We still want you to send in your scary stories! If you have any personal encounters with the supernatural or a favorite scary story, we want to hear about it! Email is at WillAndBobby@gmail.com with spooky stuff that we can read on next month's Halloween show! Also if you have a friend or family member who has a story, get them involved! You can also leave your story for us as a voicemail! Just call us on Skype! Our username is WillAndBobby, and when you call you'll hear a message from me, prompting you to start talking! Please please please send in stories or tell your friends to, I think it'd be a lot of fun to have your stories in the show!

Finally, feel free to email us with comments or questions and please post about us on Facebook and Twitter and shit. Help spread the word! No one knows who we are!

Episode 40 next week!

WBKE - Episode 38: Will and Bobby's Bogus Journey

Booya, everybody! Welcome to this week's WBKE where we're joined once again by Tommy Becker (who last hosted Episode 2!)! This week we're talking about the devil, ghosts, and whether or not I'm going to hell! It's a deep, interesting, goofy conversation, so you'll have to weigh in with your thoughts on the topic!

BUT ANYWAY:

Click here to listen from your browser!

Click here to go to the iTunes page for the show, or just stream it from the Stitcher smart phone app!

Now then, you can find Tommy's band, The Emulators, at their site www.The-Emulators.com, and if you're in NJ, go to their show at the Ivy Inn in Princeton on October 6th! Tell Tommy we sent you and maybe he'll blow you a kiss! I wish I could be there!

Also make sure you subscribe to our YouTube channel, follow Bobby (@BobbyKoester) and me (@WillRogers2000) on Twitter, and like our Facebook page!

And we still want you to send in your scary stories! If you have any personal encounters with the supernatural or a favorite scary story, we want to hear about it! Email is at WillAndBobby@gmail.com with spooky stuff that we can read on next month's Halloween show! Also if you have a friend or family member who has a story, get them involved!

Also email us with comments or questions and please post about us on Facebook and Twitter and shit, help spread the word!

Episode 39 next week!

Car Friends - Episode 4

Hey everybody! Bobby just put Episode 3 of Car Friends up in our YouTube channel! Watch it and laugh like an asshole around 50 seconds in! [youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q8vUnfPJbc&w=560&h=315]

Holy shit, so good. Subscribe and send it to your friends!

Episode 4 next week!

WBKE - Episode 36: Writing

This week on WBKE, Bobby and I are joined again by my girlfriend, Allie, and we have a conversation about writing, a topic all three of us have particular opinions of. We read about 50 Shades of Grey, get philosophical about the concept of freedom, and then Allie tells us about her experiences writing for a summer theater program with one of the slimiest pieces of shit we've ever met! It's fucked up and hilarious. Also, Bobby suggests a new theme song for the show... Click here to listen, or get it on iTunes or the Stitcher app for smartphones!

Also, make sure you check out our new YouTube show Car Friends, which we'll be putting online every Wednesday! And when you  watch it, make sure you subscribe to the channel!

We also have a new entry of Will and Bobby Wrote Something, which I'm pretty proud of. Click here to read it!

Other than that, make sure you follow us on Twitter (@WillRogers2000 and @BobbyKoester), like us on Facebook, and help spread the word about us! We're still a small obscure operation, so please tell your friends about us!

You can also email us at WillAndBobby@gmail.com for any comments or questions!

Episode 37 next week!

Announcing Will and Bobby Present: Car Friends with Will and Bobby

IT'S A BIG DAY, YOU DUMMIES! Bobby and I are excited to announce our very first video series, Car Friends with Will and Bobby. We decided to record the conversations we have when I pick Bobby up from the bus station, because those conversations are even stupider than the bullshit we say on Will and Bobby Know Everything! So kick back, relax, and watch me laugh at Bobby telling poop jokes about Batman:

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjhPLH_qYi4]

I hope you guys enjoy the show, it's a weekly series, up every Wednesday! Subscribe to our YouTube channel, tell everyone you know about it, and feel free to email us your love at WillAndBobby@gmail.com!

WBKE - Episode 35: When I Was Your Age Part Two

Hey guys, welcome to Part Two of When I Was Your Age. Last week we had my (Will's) father Richard Rogers as a guest, and now we have my mother, Kathie Rogers. In this episode we learn a lot. A lot. So much that my mom asked if we could put a disclaimer at the top of the show. It's amazing. We delve into topics like dating, getting in trouble, and then we find out what mom was doing when she was Bobby's and my age. It's a great show!

So click here to listen from your browser!

Or get it on iTunes (click here), or find it on the free smartphone app Stitcher!

Also note that Bobby and I have our own Twitter handles now, so follow us and find us everywhere else online by going to our About Us section!

That's about it other than the fact that we just put a new installment of Will and Bobby Wrote Something online. This is Part Five of our ongoing narrative explaining all the various shows, comics, and movies that Bobby and I have come up with. This particular installment is pretty interesting as it's all about a time that Bobby and I faced a turning point in our writing, so check it out (click here to read) and let us know what you think of the podcast and the blog at WillAndBobby@gmail.com

Thanks guys, episode 36 next week!

Will and Bobby Wrote Something: Part Five

Click here to start Will and Bobby Wrote Something from the beginning! Writing is not easy when you care about what you're creating. I think I'm talking about integrity.

It's time to wrap up the story of Edinburg Falls, the mystery show Bobby and I created about a writer who feels like he's lost his way. At the urging of his agent, Henry Crane goes to a small isolated town called Edinburg to try and recapture his passion, but what he finds there are horrors and distractions. Invisible monsters and visions of demons. Instead of facing the problem, he tries to run away, but becomes trapped when the whole town begins to sink into the earth.

We created Edinburg Falls at a time where we were feeling creatively trapped. At this point we'd come up with two television shows: The Dead Don't Walk, which I've previously explained as being an inadvertent carbon-copy of The Walking Dead, and our first show, a comedy, which I'm still keeping under wraps. What I will tell you about it is that, not unlike The Dead Don't Walk, we created our comedy show, loved it, explored the concept, and then watched as a very similar show hit prime time TV. And became huge.

With Edinburg Falls, I think Bobby and I were beginning to feel tapped out. We poured so much energy into each project. We have six full length scripts for our comedy show. We know how the show ends and what happens to our characters.

We spent hours talking about The Dead Don't Walk, and where it should lead. How it should be shot. What the monsters do. What's scary? What scares us? What would we do? Can we draw it ourselves? No! Let's get an artist!

We hit Edinburg Falls at a time where we were still enthusiastic writers, but perhaps a little less optimistic.

Sure, we created something relatively unique, but we also created something so preposterous that we eventually had to face the fact that it really wasn't very good. I've said it before and I'll say it again: I love Edinburg Falls. Somewhere inside the pages of what we've written, buried underneath lengthy explanations of native American worshiping grounds and abandoned government control centers there is an honest core. Something worth exploring. But Bobby and I realized years ago that we had to put it away for a while. With that, here is the final piece of Edinburg Falls I'll be sharing with you: the rough outline we were going to use to write a pilot episode.

I just read it to make sure I'm completely willing to post it online publicly, and while I am, I should explain to you the difference between a finished script and the outlines and notes Bobby and I write. As I said, this is an outline, so it is literally a truncated version of what we would have put in a finished script. More than that, it contains some of the goofiest shit in the world, because Bobby and I never originally intended for anyone to see it other than us. That being said, the basic ideas of what would have been in the pilot are awesome, and everything else is unbelievably fucking funny. Especially the guy that runs the hotel. I cannot urge you strong enough to read this. I had no idea:

Edinburg Falls - Pilot Outline

If we entered Edinburg Falls already feeling creatively stunted, we walked away from it feeling absurd. We couldn't believe how ridiculous the show was. Worse than that, we didn't really know what to do next. As I've said, we always loved our comedy show, but always felt the need to have a second concept to round ourselves out in the eyes of potential agents or television executives.

Realizing how drained I felt after all the work we'd done on The Dead Don't Walk and Edinburg Falls, I told Bobby that maybe we were trying too hard. There are a lot of succesful shows on TV that are clearly not passion-projects but are highly rated nontheless. I suggested that we start working on a show with a simple concept. A procedural show like CSI (or a million other shows). A crime show.

We mulled it over for a week or two, until one night I was watching Silence of the Lambs and realized that it basically functions exactly like a crime show. It's basically just about a cop trying to catch a killer with the help of yet another killer. Backing up this idea is the fact  that the prequel to Silence of the Lambs, Red Dragon, follows that same formula. Why not just do that 13 times a year for a few seasons?

Bobby and I started working on a TV show based on Silence of the Lambs. Not unlike our approach to The Dead Don't Walk, we knew that we had to take the original concept and make it our own. No Clarice Starling. No Hannibal Lecter. We needed to create our own cop and our own killer.

What started as a project meant to be a simple procedural, meant to be an easy cheat, became yet another ambitious project of ours. We beat ourselves coming up with a killer as horrifying as Hannibal Lecter, and we knew we needed to create a deep, believable world for our version of a Clarice. Eventually we found both. Then we struggled to name them, until we poached names from Edinburg Falls, and our show started to truly take shape.

We had originally meant to shrug off our integrity and write something simple by combining CSI and Silence of the Lambs, but eventually that simple chemical process output a complex and engrossing product:

A TV show called Dissecting Henry Crane.

We felt creatively recharged; we felt unstoppable.

About a month and a half later, it was announced that an official TV series based on Silence of the Lambs was in the works.

It had happened again.

Next month we'll take a look at the work Bobby and I put into Dissecting Henry Crane, but for now, feel free to talk about whatever you want: the shows we've created, your own struggles with writing, or if you don't consider yourself a writer, maybe just share ideas you've had! Everybody always has creative concepts swirling around their minds. What are yours?

And as always, feel free to email us at WillAndBobby@gmail.com

Thanks for reading.

WBKE - Episode 34: When I Was Your Age - Part One

Hey guys, this week we're rejoined by my (Will's) dad, Richard Rogers, for a discussion about his childhood. We find out where he grew up,  when he grew up, and who he grew up with. The story involves discussions of racism (listener discretion advised), religions, and an absurdly unfortunate frog. Listen to it, it's awesome. Also, listen to the first show my dad was one, or re-listen...Either way, you'll love it: WBKE - Episode 15:  How I Lived My Life by Lying and Fighting. SO ANYWAY:

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When I Was Your Age - Part Two next week!

WBKE - Episode 33: The Future of Will and Bobby

This episode is the most important thing in the world. It represents the future. Change. Experimentation. Stupidity. Maybe we'll be sued. Max Rose joins us on the show this week for a conversation covering information about him, some of which is confusing, we read a listener's letter (booya!), and eventually we start talking about some new projects Bobby and I are working on. Projects that will hopefully be online soon. We also discuss something fucking weird that we're putting online on Wednesday. It may or may not be pulled after it's put up, so keep your eyes peeled, and get it as soon as possible. Wednesday. Remember. It's really fucking funny and weird.

Anyway, I know I've piqued your interest, so enough of this, just:

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No matter what, please help pass on the word about our goofy bullshit. Especially if you like it!

I'm excited. We're working on funny stuff for you guys!

Episode 34 next week!